12:00 p.m.: Court resumes after mid-morning break
Judge: Mr. Munyard, please proceed.
Def: Mr. Witness, what happened to the materials that you put in the store in Buedu?
Wit: They were distributed to various groups.
Def: Moving to the second trip, it was pretty much a repeat of the first trip, right?
Wit: Between Foway and Dawa.
Def: Still on the Liberian side of the border, or not?
Wit: On the Liberian side.
Def: This is the second trip.
Def: What happened after? You said that Jungle returned to Liberia?
Def: Which means he was in Sierra Leone?
Wit: No, his vehicle faced the Sierra Leonean side of the border and when we offloaded, he turned around and went to Liberia but he was on the Liberian side of the border.
Def: In which country was it that you first saw Jungle?
Wit: It was in Liberia. he did not cross Dawa.
Def: Are you saying that on the second trip, Jungle did not cross the Liberian border?
Wit: He stopped between Fowa and Dawa, on a bush road, on the Liberian side.
Def: So when you said in May that he crossed into Sierra Leone, that was wrong?
Wit: I don’t know what you are talking about. I said the first time I saw him was in Sierra Leone when Bockarie introduced us.
Def: And when you met Jungle on the road, you transfered the materials into the vehicle?
Wit: We transfered the materials into all the three vehicles.
Def: Did you go to Foya twice in March-April 1998?
Wit: I can’t remember the exact date but I went to Foya twice. First with Issa and the second time with Bockarie.
Def: And Mike Lamin was on both trips?
Def: Did you go with Mike Lamin to Manowa ferry?
Wit: Yes, after the second shuttle.
Def: What do you mean by the second shuttle?
Wit: After we had got the second set of ammunition from Jungle.
Def: It is not right to say that you went on these two trips within a couple of weeks of each other, which is what you said in this Court in May?
Wit: I cannot remember the exact time range but I went on both trips before I went to Manowa ferry with Mike Lamin.
Def: Did you tell the Prosecution that the first time you made the trip was in March and that the second time was in April to May 1998?
Wit: I can’t remember the exact time but I know that I was on both trips.
Def: So who is getting the dates wrong here?
Wit: The documents you are putting before me here. I can’t remember the exact date. Maybe they got it right or wrong.
Def: So what did you tell them?
Wit: The exact year 1998 is correct.
Def: Look at paragraph 32 of the statement, did you say what is recorded there or did the prosecution get it wrong?
Wit: It is right.
Def: But you have told this Court that the two trips were within one to two weeks of each other,right?
Pros: Objection, the statement there is not inconsisted with one or two weeks time.
Judge: Mr. Munyard.
Def: It does not give the impression that it’ within one or two weeks.
Judge: I don’ agree with you, r. Munyard.
Def: Ok Ill leave it. So when did you say the medicine man marked you?
Wit: After we had come from Manowa Ferry
Def: Are you saying that some of the RUF forces had gun shots fired at them but didn’ do any harm to them?
Def: The bullis hit them but didn’t harm them?
Wit: The bullits did not touch them.
Def: From what distance?
Wit: Not even up to 20 meters.
Def: Let me ask you about evenst around the time of the invasion on Freetown. You had nothing to do with that invasion, right?
Def: Where was Bockarie when the news came in that Saj Musa had been killed?
Def: What was his reaction?
Wit: He was not happy. It showed in his face that he was not happy but couldn’t tell what was in his mind.
Def: Is it right that wherever there was an AFRC commander, there was an RUF deputy and vice versa?
Def: Let me ask you about events in 1999 when you went to Monrovia. You went as part of JPK’s security, right?
Def: JPK had been under arrest prior to his going to Monrovia, right?
Def: And it was because of Taylor’s intervention that JPK was released and went to Liberia?
Wit: No, it was because of the arrest of the UN peacekeepers.
Wit: And it is true that he was released after Taylor’s intervention?
Def: And you all flew to Monrovia for negotiations?
Def: And you stayed at the RUF guest house?
Def: What was the response of the SLA to the Lome agreement?
Wit: They said the agreement was not in our interest because there was no mention of the AFRC.
Def: Were there further negotiations after the agreement with Kabbah to reinstate the SLA into the official armed forces?
Def: And did Kabbah eventually agree to do that?
Def: And that took quite sometime then, the process of negotiation?
Def: You were not a negotiator, you were just JPK’s security, right?
Wit: I was there as security and as former member of the Supreme Council in the AFRC. I was present but no negotiation happened between Kabbah and the AFRC while we were in Monrovia.
Def: I am not suggesting direct negotiation. I am suggesting indirect negotiation involving ECOWAS?
Def: How quickly was this issue resolved?
Wit: We spent some time. The UN representative Okelo was the one who met with JPK.
Def: By what time was that agreement reached?
Wit: From the time I was there in August up to September when I left, it was that message that he gave me to take to the SLA guys at West Side.
Def: This agreement about the SLA being part of the armed forces, can you remember when that was concluded?
Wit: I believe that it was at the time of the conclusion of the accord.
Def: Was it the end of September perhaps the beginning of October?
Wit: Well, I left them there and went to Freetown to talk to the guys.
Def: So you left Monrovia before the final agreement was reached?
Wit: I don’t not know when they agreed but I left in September.
Def: Do you know when in September?
Wit: I can’t tell, maybe between mid and end of September.
Def: Do you remember when you had the meeting in Taylor’s office?
Wit: I can’t remember the date but I remember that we got there in August.
Def: And he was talking to you to respect the Lome accord, that it was in your favour, right?
Wit: Yes, among many other things.
Def: And you were flown to Freetown to talk to the West Side Boys to accept the agreement with the RUF, right?
Def: And eventually Kabbah accepted to reinstate the SLA into the army and also appointed JPK Chairman for the Commission for the Consolidation of Peace, right?
Def: And even when they returned, the SLA/AFRC were still unhappy with Kabbah, right?
Wit: We were happy because we had all been reinstated into the army. I was also reinstated.
Def: Were you aware that Sankoh was flown to Liberia sometime in late September?
Def: Were you aware of a document released at the end of September agreeing to see to the grievances of the AFRC?
Def: And were you aware that the AFRC were not happy that the document was signed by the VP and not President Kabbah?
Wit: I heard about it but I am only seeing it now.
Def: Was it a continuing trouble for the AFRC that Kabbah himself had not signed the document?
Wit: Well, I was not there. I’d already left Monrovia and was with the West Side Boys.
Def: What caused the Lome Accord to break down when fighting resumed?
Wit: Maybe you can help me to know the places where the fighting ensued.
Def: After the Lome Accord and the additional agreement, did peace break out in Sierra Leone?
Def: Would you say that the war ended with these agreements?
Def: Nothing else happened that could be described as a continuation of war?
Wit: Except the RUF side but for the SLA, nothing happened.
Def: What happened on the RUF side?
Wit: 2000 was the year when they abducted the UN Peacekeepers.
Def: And this resulted in the arrest of Sankoh, right?
Def: Did the RUF do anything else that could be described as conducting the war?
Wit: It was only when they wanted to come to Freetown and they stopped at Masiaka.
Def: So there were no other incidents after May 2000?
Wit: I can’t recall any now.
Def: You remained in the country until January 2003?
Def: And you left because of the allegations by the government? You said you went into hiding because the police were trying to arrest you. Was it also something to do with an incident when JPK escaped from Juba Hill in Freetown?
Wit: I don’t know how the SLPP implicated things.
Def: was there an incident involving JPK’s escape from Freetown?
Wit: I don’t know if there was any such incident.
Def: Did you say that the government accused some SLA and RUF members of wanting to stage a coup?
Wit: I did not say RUF, I said SLA.
Def: Are you saying that the lawyers wrongly included the RUF?
Def: Who were the other members of the AFRC that you included in this allegation?
Wit: JPK, a soldier called Rambo. These are the names I mentioned in my statement.
Def: Do you remember anybody else?
Wit: Hector Bob Lahai.
Def: Is he any relation to Susan Lahai?
Wit: I don’t have any relationship with him.
Def: Let me put it again. Was Hector related to Susan Lahai?
Wit: I don’t have any idea about that.
Def: Can you remember anybody else?
Wit: These are the only names I can recall.
Def: Were other people named in the newspaper report?
Wit: There are names but these are the ones I can recall.
Def: Can you recall the name of the newspaper?
Def: Did you tell the Prosecution that you esacaped to avoid arrest?
Def: Did you tell them that this was the incident relating to JPK’s escape from Juba Hill?
Def: What was the incident?
Wit: I don’t know. I just saw it in the papers.
Def: So what was the incident that led to JPK’s escape?
Wit: This was the incident, that the government accused us of planning a coup.
Def: What is Juba Hill?
Wit: It is an area in Freetown.
Def: Was JPK imprisoned at Juba Hill?
Wit: That was where his residence was.
Def: So he ran away from his residence and went into hiding?
Wit: I don’t know how he went but when I got the information, I went into hiding.
Judge: We are now going to take the lunch break and will resume at 2:30.
Court is adjourned for lunch.